Showing posts with label Medical Care. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Medical Care. Show all posts

Friday, October 9, 2009

Medical Care in Cairo, Maadi(update) - one man's opinion

Having recently got sick with very bad chest infection, and still recovering, prompted me to write a bit about health care here in Maadi. Maybe useful for people planning to relocate to Egypt, or newbies. Also see post by Lulu's Bay blog, which really captures the medical aura in fun way. See this link to post.

I personally have been pleased with the health care providers here, but one should be a bit choosy. Two of my friends can also vouch for the health care, as both their lives were saved with hospital emergency room interventions. One from heart attack and second from internal hemorrhaging.

In early days there was a standard joke - "if you needed 2 opinions you could go to same doctor on two different occasions and get the two opinions". The underlying moral was doctors didn't keep patient records. This has changed now, at least at doctors / clinic we chose to attend.

Here in Egypt, Doctors normally have a day job and run their private practice in evenings usually starting in evening around 7 pm. However there are now some clinics that you can attend to in afternoon starting around 12 to 3 pm. Then again the doctors will be available from about 6 pm onwards. The clinic we use is Ghaly Medical Group and clinic opens at 9 am. (see details at bottom of this post). Dr Ghaly is the main resident doctor and a wide range of specialists attend in evening times. This brings up one difference between what I was used to in Canada an here. To see a specialist you needed to be referred by a GP. No so here you can go directly if you know one. Clinic is located in New Maadi per details at bottom of this post. Clinic charges change, but at time of writing a visit cost 200 LE, and what some people do not know, is if doctor says he wants to see you again to monitor improvement, then second visit should not incur additional fee.

Who you use as primary health care provider is a personal choice, and no doubt strongly influenced by your companies recommendations, and friends. And, as there are other clinics, and favorite medical practitioners, and I encourage anyone having good experience to put the information available in comments. I will then include such comments in main body of this post.

I must admit I feel the doctors over medicate and it seems not unusual to get a prescription for a bag full of different drugs. And this brings up another point. You do not need a doctors prescription to buy drugs at a pharmacy, so if you want to self medicate go for it. And, honestly, for simple health issues, the pharmacist will know what is working and recommend. Also if you require injections (E.g. Vitamin B) the pharmacist will perform this for you. All decent pharmacies will deliver and there is one I use that is open 24 hours and delivers, located across from north entrance to Grand Mall. Europe Pharmacy is the name and phone is 519 5688. The pharmacy use the most is ALAA at N0. 20 87 street, Sakanet, Maadi ph 23782710 because I know the pharmacists personally with good advice for many years and they are close and also deliver.

We have only had to have medical treatment in hospital once and that was for appendicitis for my oldest daughter (she was 12 at time). Ghaly's Medical group surgeon arranged for all. We just went to Al Salam hospital in morning and went directly to assigned room. No check in paper work or anything. All went very well and we paid hospital etc. by 2 pm and left for home. The whole cost was about 3000 LE but that was a few years back.

This brings up the subject of medical insurance. Larger companies provide such insurance to their employees, but those working here on contracts through local agents, would not normally have insurance provided. As is case with us. I did carry insurance for awhile through BUPA (think this is best known insurance provider here) but the cost I found exorbitant in relationship to what the health care costs are here. For what insurance people wanted, I could have heart surgery once per year and have change left over.

With respect to specialist MRI, X-ray's etc, you can visit Nile Scan conveniently located in Maadi on Rd 9 (plus other centers in Cairo - check egypt yellow pages). Mention you are a resident and also be aware, if you request at additional cost, consultant diagnostics from specialists at Harvard, John Hopkins or University Hospitals of Cleveland. Al Salam hospital is another option but parking is a nightmare.


Another snippet has to do with laser eye treatments. I know of several Egyptians had this done and also several expatriates who were commuting working 28/28. Price they said was less than half of what it costs in their European home countries and they all were very pleased with results.

With respect to other medical services. Who you use as primary health care provider is a personal choice, and no doubt strongly influenced by your companies recommendations, and friends. And, as there are other clinics, and favorite medical practitioners, and I encourage anyone having good experience to put the information available in comments.

I must admit I feel the doctors over medicate and it seems not unusual to get a prescription for a bag full of different drugs. And this brings up another point. You do not need a doctors prescription to buy drugs at a pharmacy, so if you want to self medicate go for it. And, honestly, for simple health issues, the pharmacist will know what is working and recommend. Also if you require injections (E.g. Vitamin B) the pharmacist will perform this for you. All decent pharmacies will deliver and there is one I use that is open 24 hours and delivers, located across from north entrance to Grand Mall. Europe Pharmacy is the name and phone is 519 5688. The pharmacy use the most is ALAA at N0. 20 87 street, Sakanet, Maadi ph 23782710 because I know the pharmacists personally with good advice for many years and they are close and also deliver.

We have only had to have medical treatment in hospital once and that was for appendicitis for my oldest daughter (she was 12 at time). Ghaly's Medical group surgeon arranged for all. We just went to Al Salam hospital in morning and went directly to assigned room. No check in paper work or anything. All went very well and we paid hospital etc. by 2 pm and left for home. The whole cost was about 3000 LE but that was a few years back.

This brings up the subject of medical insurance. Larger companies provide such insurance to their employees, but those working here on contracts through local agents, would not normally have insurance provided. As is case with us. I did carry insurance for awhile through BUPA (think this is best known insurance provider here) but the cost I found exorbitant in relationship to what the health care costs are here. For what insurance people wanted, I could have heart surgery once per year and have change left over.

With respect to specialist MRI, X-ray's etc, you can visit Nile Scan conveniently located in Maadi on Rd 9 (plus other centers in Cairo - check Egypt yellow pages). Mention you are a resident and also be aware, if you request at additional cost, consultant diagnostics from specialists at Harvard, John Hopkins or University Hospitals of Cleveland. Al Salam hospital is another choice but be aware parking is a nightare.


Another snippet has to do with laser eye treatments. I know of several Egyptians had this done and also several expatriates who were commuting working 28/28. Price they said was less than half of what it costs in their European home countries and they all were very pleased with results.

With respect to other medical services. There is no shortage of dentists, ophthalmologists and many other specialties. Word of mouth for recommendations is good. If anyone wants to know who we use please email me.
entists, ophthalmologists and many other specialties. Word of mouth for recommendations is good. If anyone wants to know who we use please email me.

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Monday, April 20, 2009

Email Hoax - Cancer Update From John Hopkins Hospital

This information was posted as comment: and is serious for reader to research.
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Cancer Update From John Hopkins Hospital":

Hi.
You should have searched the Johns Hopkins web site before publishing this as it is not from them and they debunk it as it is 98% nonsense.
http://www.hopkinskimmelcancercenter.org/index.cfm/cID/1684/mpage/item.cfm/itemID/1016
http://www.jhsph.edu/dioxins

This copy of orginal email received now debunked as a hoax
This information is being circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center as well.

Please circulate to all you know; Cancer update
Johns Hopkins - Cancer News from Johns Hopkins

No plastic containers in micro
no water bottles in freezer.
no plastic wrap in microwave...


A dioxin chemical causes cancer, especially breast cancer.



Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your plastic bottles with water in them as this releases dioxins from the plastic.

Recently, Edward Fujimoto, Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital , was on a TV program to explain this health hazard. He talked about dioxins and how bad they are for us.
He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic containers...

his especially applies to foods that contain fat.
He said that the combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body...
Instead, he recommends using glass, such as Corning Ware, Pyrex or ceramic containers for heating food... You get the same results, only without the dioxin. So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed from the container and heated in something else.
Paper isn't bad but you don't know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc.
He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of the reasons...

lso, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip into the food.
Cover food with a paper towel instead.